Counter-Strike is business and we don’t suck
Hey everybody!
Once again I’m gonna write a hopefully interesting blog. This time I wanted to discuss a thing which I think a lot about, gaming. I read Liefje’s (a person I respect for what she has reached during the last years) latest article on Cadred and it made me write that blog entry.
Girls will never be as good as male-gamers
I have been playing for a really long time now (too long) and I have spent hours and hours of playing public, mixing, practicing in different teams with different people. During my time playing, there has always been shit talked about female-gamers. No matter what it was about, there were always some bad-mouths here and there. “Girls will never be as good as male-gamers” - and you know what? Yeah, I totally agree on that. They don’t have the same talent as many male-gamers are “blessed” with; neither have they the motivation or the same “state of mind”. One thing that is really annoying though is that people keep on commenting by blindly generalizing the topic: “ALL female-gamers suck”. I think that shows, many people see things pretty superficially and don’t do enough research before making such a bold statement. Not all female gamers suck; not ALL of them.
I have seen girls kicking boy’s asses and I observed some girls playing kinda smart, they make wise, smart decisions ingame, have good aim, good team-play and overall a good understanding of the game.
SOME girls have potential
The only bad thing is that there are just three girls I have “admired” for playing in my whole five years of gaming and its thanks to them that I am the player I am today. I’m not forgetting about the males that have influenced my game as well, but this time I’m talking about the girls. Only three girls that I have “admired”, and compared to the male scene that has so many gamers that are good and they have different gaming-style to choose from that you can “admire” them for. It is not the same with female-gamers. Even if I have only those three girls in mind, I have seen that some girls have potential and they are better than many boys already now (and I don’t mean teams like mTw here - cause obviously that would be like comparing apples and oranges).
Sometimes when I’m bored I play on a Swedish public site called spelarenan, and I swear to god, I have never seen worse boys playing then there. The worst part is that it’s those kinds of boys that say we suck. There are a lot of sucky boys, but just because of that, I don’t say they all suck. Funny thing is, boys are a majority when it comes to playing Counter-Strike, aren’t there more boys overall that are worse than girls then? Whatever, just don’t forget the girls that stand out and try to be better. They deserve a chance.
Good looking equals = easier marketing
A while ago, when we started this whole project with Pink Zinic officially, there was a random-girl that commented on a news about us and said “We should practice more and stop putting on lipstick”. It’s so sad when girls get jealous, instead of embracing each other’s victory, they write stuff like that when they don’t really understand the situation. Just because we had pretty pictures of us does that mean we don’t practice? We are making a deal and trying to get ourselves where we want to be. We did those photos so they could promote us and while doing that they get their ideas and items sold. “Sorry that we look good and can use this for our advantage”. How can all that be embarrassing? We never said we were good or were gonna rock the world, we are just gonna do as good as we can. Keep doing what we have been doing for the last year. Yeah, we have played together for a whole year, so for the people that say “they will split up after a month”, try again. All stars from all industries are using their look in order to market themselves better. It is fine when tennis, football or basketball players do a photo shoot and it is fine when the male CS and WC3 players pose cool on pictures - but female CS players aren’t allowed to do so?
Maybe it is easier for people to be mean via the internet. You can say there whatever you want without the need to face the person eye to eye you are talking crap about! There have been so many comments about how sucky we are, from both female and males but to be honest, I just think many are jealous! Of course not everyone.
Counter-Strike is business
You might ask, why don’t you just play, but why do you have to do those pictures and all? What do we get from all this? It is business like whole competitive eSports is business. Without all that marketing there wouldn’t be tournaments with thousands of euros in price money around the globe and there wouldn’t be paid players. We are five Counter-Strike playing girls doing what we like to do. What we are doing helps us to visit events like Dreamhack, ESWC, SLAP and maybe other LANs. Our organization really believes in us and wants to help us improve our game by giving us the chance to attend more male tournaments, rather than one or two female tournaments a year.
And think about it yourself. If you had the chance to get your flight ticket, food and hotel paid, would you say no? If you would have the chance to focus on your hobby in order to get better and get offered a professional environment, what would you do? Like any other job, we do stuff and get what we want in return. Yes that is a job and that is business. While this is happening, when we are at home, we are sitting practicing our asses off to improve our game and try to perform better then we have done past times at events.
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May 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
venomen said:
Wow… Great text ;) I agree with most of it.
May 10th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
ipsa said:
Most of it ;D?
May 10th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
1337joa said:
Nice post. Btw, who are these 3 girls ? :D
And to be honest, I’ve played with an awesome girl and really skilled and I prefer playing with her than a couple of other stupid kids - male. Male can yell too much on TeamSpeak during FW’s but this girl was more calm on TeamSpeak and she needed less talk than some male to react well and to play as a team.
PS: girls are spamming/yelling less TS but once they do it, ur ears never forget it ^^
May 11th, 2009 at 12:44 am
ipsa said:
Hehe thats a secret Ill never tell ;) It was some girls I used to look up to but now they are unfortenatly different people =(
May 11th, 2009 at 1:02 am
milla said:
Amen to that! I see that you are facing the same difficulties we are. We most often can’t play against guys because they don’t take us seriously. There is a lot of name calling and comments like you were talking about and you can’t help it but be affected by it. But me and my team have decided to rise above those lame comments and show who we really are as gamers instead. There not many female teams in Scandinavia atm so we should kick ass instead of bowing down! You go girls! Lipstick and all!
May 11th, 2009 at 1:14 am
zibbo said:
I agree with most, but some of your pictures are to extreme, (You could say it is a pic for a pr0n movie of some girls on that pic) e.g. Background of zinicauction.com?
May 11th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
venomen said:
“Most” :). Always have to be some “but…” :]
May 11th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
ipsa said:
zibbo I totally agree with you, but we didnt have anything to say about wich pictures that where going to be used, like I mentioned, its bussiness, we get a deal and we took it, but people keep forgetting there are 2sides about this whole thing with _US_ girls, zinic :) bussiness side and then we have our personal goals and as a team :)
May 11th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
zibbo said:
Ofcourse IpSa, I tottaly understand your point but then zAAz shouldn’t always be that suprised if she gets naughty comments from youngsters if you show such a picture.
May 11th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
ipsa said:
This is the first time we have this photos? They spammed naughty comments BEFORE we even took those pictures? lol :P
May 11th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
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